This is made worse by DFK being a game people apparently dislike compared to other CAVE games, and this PC port not really being wanted due to the easily accessible and cheap 360 port. The prerelease hype for the likes of DFK, Akai Katana, and SDOJ was mostly from noobs who think CAVE is the only name in shmups, bolstered by people who actually play other games and should know better. When they posted, they were the ones bringing the info in as it was being released. None of those people care much for prerelease hype. It's been wonderful to see you slowly succumbing to the lures of the genre and feeding a few credits during your down time I think what Gandhi meant by this was "rather than moaning about the moaners, post positively in the blue revolver thread", but what did that cnut know, he couldn't even 1cc his dinner.īy the way, Nick, you're doing a thankless task here, so thanks Blackbird had big shoes to fill and. "Be the change you want to see in the world" I think everyone here is balls-deep in blue revolver, there's just less discussion because right now, there's less to say. I know it seems like we're all a bunch of crusty dads discussing the merits of a remastered classic album while some young thrusting upstarts are blowing it out of the water, unheard. I take your point, the genre is alive and fantastic games are being made right now! We should be pushing forward and chattering excitedly about them. I think we have a healthy mix of old dogs and eager young puppies here, there's a nice balance and a mutual respect.īlue revolver is a fantastic game, I'm sure that thread will grow in time. They're bound to have more to say about an old game from one of the genres big players that they all know inside out than they are about an indie shmup that just got released a few days ago. There are a lot of very good, experienced, long in the tooth shmup players here and that's going to bring a knowledgable, if slightly jaded, cynical tone to the forum. Bullshit CAVE favoritism is apparently the only thing worth talking about in these forums anymore, because it's obvious noone cares about Blue Revolver or anything else that could possibly be interesting in this genre. It's bullshit CAVE favoritism at the absolute worst time in the world, and it confuses me greatly that everyone seems to have forgotten how much they hate the situation too. Blue Revolver had a lengthy test period and the demos have been out for a while now we could have totally had both gameplay info and hype speculation, but we've barely gotten a page of people going "hey this might be cool" like it's some random game that appeared out of nowhere.
Apparently we also needed a 10-page followup thread about a port people didn't even want, and we're probably going to get 10 more pages of people complaining about a port they won't refund. The problem is that people never had trouble finding things to talk about with any other CAVE game, well before we had anything beyond a name and a possible location test date. What do you suggest people talk about in the Blue Revolver thread, then? And what should they have talked about before the game was released?
NTSC-J: You know STGs are in trouble when you have threads on how to introduce them to a wider audience and get more people playing followed by threads on how to get its hardcore fan base to play them, too. The modes people are having issues with (Ketsuipachi, Arrange A) are arranged modes that originated in the 360 port, so you can't play them at all on PCB or in MAME - your choice for those is between the 360 port and the Steam port. MAME emulation of this game and other late CAVE games isn't great - the Steam release is almost certainly more accurate and a better experience. The rest are exclusive to the Xbox 360 and now Steam (in particular, Black Label Arrange, aka Ketsuipachi, required a Japanese 360 before this).įrom what I've heard the arcade modes in this release are very accurate compared with the PCB, so there's not much point in forking up for a PCB unless you really like spending money. The arcade versions of DFK 1.5 and BL are only two of the eight modes included in this release (I hesitate to use the word "mode" here because many of the modes have different styles to choose from within the mode.). Should I play the PCB via supergun, or ROM via MAME, before playing this?